Over the last year or so a number of people have expressed concerns about broadband in Old Basing. I am not sure if the same issues apply to Lychpit as well, if so please let me know. The main issues seem to be:
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Update from Basingstoke and Deane about the Superfast Broadband.
Please visit the web page and send an email requesting an alert when Old
Basing will be upgraded and register yourself as a NOTSPOT. Look out
for new green cabinets by the side of the road.
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Phil has sent me a link which indicates that Basingstoke will be included in BT's initial rollout of Super Fast Broadband. See here from more details.
Tony can get 2.5 Mbps with ADSL+
The following link contains lots of useful information that you have
provided about Broadband and
how to choose your ISP.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com
For ADSL wiring accessories see
http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_wiring.htm
http://www.adslnation.com/products/index.php
And please fill in the form at the following link to register your poor
quality connection.
http://www.ehampshire.org/notspots.asp
According to this link, the average broadband speed is 3.6 Mbps
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7817748.stm
And according to this link we will all have 2 Mbps broadband accesses by
2012
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7858498.stm
| Graham from Old Basing | to whom would we communicate to get the village into the 21st century? i.e. for broadband we are all stuck with BT, no matter who the actual isp, they all use BT lines. at some point we must all make a stand and be able to choose our isp, like Virgin. until then, the village is stuck in 1973, with speeds online approaching a heady 300k. i just wondered if there is a parish council member willing to take up the challenge, or someone to blame for not allowing Virgin into the village? |
| Tony from Paddock Fields | I think it is excellent! I actually achieve 1.8meg outbound, and approximately 3.9meg inbound this does however vary dependant on usage load levels time of day, I do not believe you can better this level in OB without cable. I use AOL and I understand they have software to speed things up at the ISP? |
| Lesley from Saxon Way | 959.1 kbps is the most I get on Broadband. My ISP is AOL. Yes that is correct less than 1MB for the price of 8MB! To be technically correct it is up to maximum of 8MB. It all depends on the BT cables and distance from the exchange. Its about time BT stopped living in the dark ages and stopped using copper cables and installed fibre optic. I am seriously thinking of going to mobile broadband in 2009. |
| Danny from Saxon Way | I have been with Virgin for my ISP for years & have found the connection to be very good. (Except for when it rains and then then it seems to drop speed slightly) Virgin have just done something to boost my connection from a typical 1700 kbps to 3900 bops and I pay £14/month for the up to 8MB service which also includes phone calls. The line rental is still through BT though. |
| Paul from Privett Close |
I use Sky Broadband; whilst Sky have installed their own equipment in
local exchanges (as allowed by LLU [Local Loop Unbundling], giving third
parties access to the exchange), they still rely on the antiquated BT
copper landlines to deliver the service. |
| Tony Fendall of Inkpen Gardens (Parish Council Chairman) | My Internet speed is pathetic (0.9 Mbps). This is approximately 25% of the national average. The worst area is Northern Ireland at 2Mbps. I have been fighting BT for months to improve matters without success. I will see if we can cover this issue at a forthcoming Parish Council meeting. |
| Peter from Bexmoor Way | Firstly a BIG thank you for highlighting this appalling service from BT - we live in Bexmoor Way and following your advice I have monitored my current bandwidth speed over the last 48hrs and have only once exceeded 100.00 kbps ! The situation appears to have become worse over the past 3 months to a point where I no longer attempt to log on over the weekend - but what can we do - a friend who lives less than a 100 yds in The Street has excellent service . I understand the service level in Bexmoor Way is a direct result on the 50 year old cables - is it better to make a consolidated complaint or as an individual - any advice would be appreciated . |
| Kevin from Linden Avenue | Well, I have at last resolved my connection reliability issue and at the same time have improved my connection speed from 300 Kbps to 512 Kbps. It turned out to be the wiring in the home. I have split the line where it enters the house and run one line to the Kitchen for the phone, and the other to the Office for the broadband. The branch to the office simply doesn't work anymore. When I connect the router in the kitchen everything is fine. So now I have run a modem cable from the kitchen to the office (5 meters) and disconnected the original wiring to the office. |
| Phil from Norton Ride |
I used to be on fixed ADSL from BT at 1 mbps no problem. I was
encouraged by BT to upgrade to up to 8 mbps variable on the basis I
would get double for the same price. I actually got 2.4 mbps for a while
then 1.8 mbps for 5 or 6 months now this has progressively reduced to
0.96 mbps. My signal to noise ratio and attenuation have remained much
the same. Consequently I put the decrease down to BT throttling
bandwidth due to the increase usage of IPlayer and similar by internet
users despite my service being uncapped. I am 3.5 kms from the exchange
as the crow flies probably 5 or 6 kms by copper wire. As other
correspondents have noted in-house wiring can have an effect. Good
advice on improving this aspect can be found on the ThinkBroadband
website |
| David from Pyotts Copse |
I get a very meagre 125-250k with my BT Broadband, whilst this remains an expensive solution I am not prepared to risk another supplier given serious problems I had when I tried this last time. Usually this is sufficient for most things I need to do but trying to watch even a modest sized youtube video at these speeds is absolutely wonderful for any nostalgia buffs pining for the days of dial up access (but not for anyone trying to use broadband in the 21st century). Oh, I forgot to say Mobile Broadband might be the answer but we are right in the middle of a signal blind spot (on Vodafone, T-mobile and 3!!!) D'oh! |
| Su from the Street | I'm with BT but had problems for about two months getting a connection. They finally acknowledged that it was external and dug up some of the village to replace wires, I believe. The service is now constant but the speed is dismal, 195.5bps. I'd like to change provider - may as well go cheaper if the speed is so poor but not sure where to go. Any suggestions / recommendations? |
| Sarah from Milkingpen Lane |
We live on Milkingpen Lane and use AOL. The service is very reliable
but the speed is extremely poor. So bad that we can't use BBC iPlayer
at all and it takes for ever to download music. The speed this morning
was 127.40 kbps. Someone phoned from BT last night trying to get us to
switch but we're on a contract with AOL and have never had any issues
with their service. Would be great if someone could do something to speed things up. |
| Peter from Bexmoor Way | Peter has been trying his luck with BT Support. He now reports an improvement in speed of up to 900 kbps. |
| Chris from Heron Park |
We live in Heron Park and the Bandwidth is circa 370kbs. We have discussed this with neighbours to check and conclude that it is common to the estate. We did change to Talk Talk in early 2007, we then discovered that they were unable to provide the service due to the low bandwidth. This caused a long dispute with TT and a change back to BT. At that point in desperation we went for an integrated BT package including BT Vision. To our amazement BT then advised that with the bandwidth available they could not provide Vision. (Too slow to download). They visited and tried a few tests, and changes, but failed to improve performance. We would welcome action to get some change made to servers in exchanges to up the rate. We understand this has been achieved by other groups in the UK in similar circumstances. A point to make to those getting high speeds is that to and from our BT hub in the house we do get Mbs but not on the external copper! If we can contribute in collecting data or writing letters please tell us. |
| Stacey from Churn Close |
We are with BT Broadband and signed up to 8MB but in practice we get
less than 512KB, in fact with your speed test it said a miserly 185Kbps. |
| Update from the Parish Council |
Kevin |
| Reg from Hatch Lane |
I live in Hatch Lane and I checked my broadband bandwidth on Monday 12/1/09 at 15:10, I have bandwidth of 127.4 kbps (ie 15.03KB/s). I spoke to a BT linesman, who was working at an inspection chamber in Milkingpen Lane, and he said the problem is twofold. One is that we are too far from the exchange, and the other is that the cables to Old Basing are made from aluminum which have corroded. He also said that there was a plan to lay a new link (I think he said an optical link) to the Hatch and set up a kind of mini exchange to distribute broadband around the village. I think we will have to wait for a long time to see any improvement. |
| More from Peter in Bexmoor Way | I was waiting to give you a report as its been a long journey ! BT were here for 3 hours on Monday finding out that at some point been within their connection box we had been 'star wired' !. Sockets were then changed and readings taken showing in excess of 2mg - later that day we tried to use the line extension upstairs only to find it had been disconnected ! On Thursday another session lasting nearly 2 hours finding and correcting the cross wiring that had occurred on Monday - so I have logged nearly 5 hrs with them last week . I have to say Broadband is now 100% better at 1.3 but there reading which I have seen and the test you have on the Basinga are not compatible - why ! I now need to call India with this update - so yes we have a reading in excess of 1 meg but I believe BT to be wholly incompetent ! |
| More from Phil in Norton Ride |
Another source of ADSL accessories is :-
http://www.adslnation.com/products/index.php Clarity were the original supplier of ADSL faceplates to consumers in UK but I have read recently on the web they have not been so performant on orders recently. So I ordered my faceplate from ADSL Nation instead a week ago. See http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php . It came in 2 days and I fitted it yesterday. I am now waiting to see where my bandwidth settles out at over the next 10 days. So far, it has gone up from 1.24mbps to 2.33mbps at the moment but I expect this will drop during the next few days to somewhere in between the two values as my profile settles but hopefully higher than before. I would add I have no connection with either Clarity or ADSL Nation. |
| Ken from Norton Ride |
Thanks for taking up the broadband cause. Here are some notes from Norton Ride in Lychpit:
I confess I have got use the to the slow speed but I should not as my bill is for up to 8Mb/s service. |
| Ann from ? |
In answer to your questions in the Basinga about better Broadband. I
am getting a speed of 1275.8 Kbps. My service provider is Sky and I
have a separate ADSL link which does not interfere with my incoming
phone calls, have very few problems since having the ADSL link and being
with Sky, had quite a few problems with previous service provider Orange
kept getting disconnected and it was costing me £17.99 a month, now I do
not pay anything extra for Broadband it is all in with my sky package.
It took me 3.15 mins to connect today. I still think the connection here in Old Basing is a lot slower than some areas around here, my son lives in Bramley and he has a faster connection. |
| Jim from the Street |
My speeds are using the link on your page are: -
This I consider slow! |
| John from Bexmoor |
I have had 4 different ISPs in the last 8 years in my quest for
better broadband. I now achieve 4 Mbps download and 800Kbps upload which
I think is as good as you can get out of the old copper wires at 2.4Km
from the exchange.
I long since removed the ring wire from my master socket. |
| Philip from Little Fallow |
Just read your comments in the Basinga. We have just registered 127.40 kbps on the speed test which is pretty much what we're stuck with. We rarely cannot connect, but we do note that early afternoons on weekdays (2.30pm) are particularly bad. We've recently spoken to BT and they said that the maximum that we can ever hope to achieve is 1000kbps, and that they have no plans to change things in this area. This is now a big issue for us because it prevents us doing work, as we both have on-line training modules that we cannot do from home because of the abominable speed. Incidentally we did threaten to leave and subsequently managed to
negotiate a discount of approximately £6.50 from the standard 'Option 1'
tariff. |
| Chris from Ivar Gardens |
We live in Lychpit and use the broadband for work, we currently getting
127kb/sec which is very slow and nothing like the 8mb/sec BT boast about
in their adverts! Yes there is no alternative and BT seem to have no
plans to upgrade to ADSL2. This (I think) is where BT run a fibre to the
cabinet, a sort of halfway cross connection point which would then
reduce the distance of the copper 2wire to customers houses. Cable would offer 10 mb/sec, a colleague of mine who lives in Worthing and subscribes to Virgin media gets 10mb/sec. |
| Mike from Park Lane |
I am in Park Lane with Tiscali and get speeds of around 2.2Mbps (strangely though the tool you suggest only shows a speed of 800 Kbps). I checked with several other tools which show the higher speed and downloads arrive at the higher speed as well. The service is reasonable although I have to reset my cheap wireless router around once or twice a day. One day I'll spend £50 and get a better one. Tiscali's price is good as it includes phone line rental, free week-end calls and up to 8Mbps broadband for £15 a month. It would be good to get a faster speed but what I get is adequate for the up to 4 pc's that google, email, facebook and watch iPlayers at any one time. |
| More from Phil in Norton Ride |
An update for you. My connection is holding 2.528 mbps with an SNR of
13.5 and attenuation of 50 after 1 month on the new faceplate. Much
better than I anticipated so far and close to the BT prediction for my
line of 2.8 mbps and distance from the exchange. A great improvement over the 0.96 to 1.24 mbps I was getting before I fitted the faceplate. So worthwhile in my case. I guess my home extension wiring was dragging the speed down. |
| John from Milkingpen Lane |
I suffer from the same sort of speed issues as several of your other commentators. I struggle to maintain a speed of just over 1MB with BT. I find that problems with the old lines lead to faults on the line, which in turn cause the broadband speed to get limited. As an example, about 10 days ago my rated speed was cut back to 700 kbps. I immediately notice this with for example BBC iPlayer becoming unusable in peak periods. Last November the fault was worse, and speed was cut back to 300 kbps. iPlayer doesn't work at all at that speed. Once your rated speed is cut, it won't go back up on its own. When this happens, the only way to get speed back up is to get BT to admit there is a fault on the line, then get an engineer to try to resolve it. This can be a very tedious process involving calls to Mumbai, waiting in queues, fairly pointless test procedures, until finally an engineer will call. I find the local engineers very good when they finally get on the case, but you cannot contact them direct until they are assigned to the job. I don't know if having another ISP would help, as all the services come through the BT lines. I think those people who get much more than 1MB speed are just very lucky with their wires! I recommend a conversation with the MAC department at BT (that's the people you go to when you want to leave BT for another provider). They will promise you a minimum level of service that I think the engineers then have to maintain (in my case I've been promised 1MB - not stunning, but workable). They'll also tell you that Basing is scheduled for rewiring next year, but the engineers say don't hold your breath! Oh, and they'll cut your price by 50 to 60%. |
| Michael from Linden Avenue |
Test using link on Basinga Page = |
| David from ? |
Have just read your article in the Basinga which I found interesting and informative. I have had broadband for about 4 years with Tiscali as my ESP and as my line supplier for the last 2 years approx. I have found Tiscali to be a good supplier and have no reason to seek an alternative apart from the speed issue. I have just conducted a speed test using your link and the reading came up as 372.90 kbps. I have no idea if this is good, bad or indifferent compared to other connections in the village. I suspect it is poor when compared to other parts of Basingstoke but I have been told by engineers that it is all down to the quality of "copper" to my line and the distance we are from the exchange, which apparently is on the edge. I would be interested to hear how I compare to others in the village. When I transferred to Broadband I had BT install a second connection box by extending the line from the main box to ensure that I had the best possible connection as I was told then we were at the edge of a broad band supply and that an overhead supply did not help. I have had concerns about reliability recently and have disconnected my router in order to establish if it is my equipment at fault. I cannot honestly say that the line is unreliable on a regular basis, but some days it just seems to playup. How do you convey that to a call centre in India? I have had 2 major failures to my supply in the last 2 years and each one has been down to exchange problems that BT were the cause and responsible for any delays in the repairs. Tiscali's helpline was has improved considerably when I needed to contact them on the last failure which was in February of this year. They answered the phone reasonably quickly and although they are still using an Indian call centre we could understand each other, they carried out a line test and quickly indicated that the fault seemed to be an exchange problem and that they would call back within 4 hours. This they did and confirmed that the problem was an exchange one and that it should be resolved within 48 hours. A BT Open reach engineer eventually turned up and carried out a couple of tests and by doing some work to a nearby connection pillar at the end of the lane resolved the problem just within the 48 hours. The only gripe I have is that Tiscali helpline is a premium rate number which was very expensive to use, as I could not use my land line and forced to use my mobile it was an expensive call, albeit that I only had to make one call. Tiscali called me back twice on my mobile to confirm what was going on and again to check that I was back in action and happy. |
| Justin from Inkpen Gardens |
I've just read your article about better broadband and I think I
might be able to help you. I use mobile broadband and would be very
happy to run a few speedtests from various parts of Old Basing, if that
would be useful? |
| John from Old Basing |
I live in Old Basing and use both fixed like broadband via BT and T-Mobile mobile broadband. T-Mobile is probably more reliable but it is a bit slower than BT. |
| Sarah from Milkingpen Lane |
I'm still struggling to get our broadband speed improved from the 230kbps we currently have. Our ISP is AOL and they've said that there's nothing more they can do - the problem is the BT cables. I sense that other people have the same issue with slow speed due to ancient cables - has anyone successfully challenged BT about this and got their cables changed? If so, how did you do it? If not, would it be worth writing a letter from a group of us asking for something to be done? I guess the other option is to look at mobile broadband which we will explore but I'd rather get the land line sorted out. |
| Fleur from Lychpit | I live in Blackberry Walk in Lychpit. I have just run the Broadband test and mine came out at 727.40kbps. My Broadband supplier is Orange via the BT line. I have been with Orange for over 6 years and have only had one problem. This was when they made the Broadband speed faster but the BT exchange it couldn’t handle it. It kept dropping the line. This was fixed by putting the speed back to what it was. If people are having this problem it might be worth them asking their Broadband supplier what speed they are running at and if it is higher than the speed test it’s worth getting the speed decreased. I find the Broadband access adequate for what I do but for teenage boys playing Internet games it is a bit slow. It would be good if BT could update the exchange to give us faster access and I’m sure they have plans for this but trying to get hold of anyone at BT to find out is impossible. |
| More from David in Pyotts Copse |
Just to advise you that I changed my broadband supplier from BT to
TalkTalk last month and, for the first time ever, am receiving
acceptable broadband speeds (i.e. film/you tube clips that play
continuously streaming without having to buffer every few seconds.)
A lot cheaper than BT as well. David also had the following to say about switching from BT to TalkTalk. It was very straightforward, placed order, they informed BT and sent wireless router with connection date and was pleasantly surprised that everything worked with a 30 minute setup time. They do charge a one off £29 connection charge though but also offer a 30 day free trial. Only problem I had was in trying to install their security/anti virus software which left me without protection for several hours until I sorted the problem out so I definitely recommend that people stick with existing software on that one, but the broadband (and wireless) service has been very good and consistent. (apparently they install their own hardware in the exchange) |
| More from Tony Fendal |
This is an update on my broadband speed in Inkpen Gardens. |
| More from Tony Fendal |
Demon is now providing me with 2.5Mbps at Inkpen Gardens. Tony reported the following to Demon "My download speed is consistently at 2.5Mbps and uploads at 580Kbps. Can you advise if this service speed is now available to other service providers in this area, or is it exclusive to Demon customers? " Demon replied "The speed you are getting is a good speed. You are getting this speed because it is on ADSL 2+ service. Currently no other providers have upgraded their systems to support ADSL 2+." |
| Debbie, who is moving to Lychpit |
I'm moving house to Lychpit in a few months. Have been reading the
comments on the forum. |
| Paul from Privett Close |
I was very interested to read Tony Fendal’s comment about 2.5mbps in
Inkpen Gardens. I’m in Privett Close (just up from Inkpen Gardens)
and was informed by Sky (my provider) that adsl2+, whilst available in
my area, would destabilise my line to the point where it would cause
more issues than it cures. They therefore have to leave me capped
at approx. 600kbps. |
| Phil in Norton Ride |
A glimmer of hope today with BTs announcement to include Basingstoke
in their 40mbps roll-out. |
| Kevin in Linden Avenue |
As already indicated I purchased Vodafone PAYG Mobile Broadband. I have been using it on and off for a couple of weeks now and here is what I think so far:
So, my conclusion so far is that it probably isn't the solution for someone who wants to replace their landline connection, but would be great for browsing on the go. |
| Penny from Norton Ride |
1.76 Mbps on Saturday 15 August 2009. My provider is Post office telephones |